curgoth: (sick)
curgoth ([personal profile] curgoth) wrote2002-11-18 07:44 pm

draining all pleasure from food

So, I made it to the nutritionist today. I'm feeling... unconvinced.

I was kind of hoping for some general guidelines to work with; something like, more protein here, less carbs here, these foods are good, these you ought to avoid. Instead, I got basically a menu to live off of. The menu is pretty limited, and doesn't really allow for flexibility or creativity, and assume that one has time to pre-cook stuff.

I was provided with a pile of recipes, almost all of which look bland and uninteresting; it's basically the same kind of bland, uninteresting stuff my parents keep working at. I'm going to try to stick to it for a while anyway, but I suspect that I'll just cough up the cash (this ain't covered by OHIP) and take what I can live with and see how I do.

On the fun side, it took just over two hours to get to the place from work, plus 30 minutes to stop and eat some lunch. It'll be a bit quicker once the Sheppard subway line opens next week, but it's still a trek, and it'll still end up with me basically losing half a day of work...

I spent a good deal of my life feeling guilty about everything I ate, and hating most of the food I was eating. I don't especially want to go back to that, and I know Liz won't put up with this limited menu.
If this is what I have to do to live longer, maybe a shorter life is the better deal?

Blah. I am tired and feeling negative. I want to eat birthday cake to rebel.

just curious...

[identity profile] themusesbitch.livejournal.com 2002-11-18 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
what kind of foods did the nutritionist recommend?

and what kind of nutritionist is this? how did you find him/her (recommended by a doctor?) and what are his/her credentials?

[identity profile] tylorael.livejournal.com 2002-11-18 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
1) when they say "no pasta ever" it's from this thought: "Does it grow? no? then don't eat it." This does mean that you can have complex carbohydrates - like the cous cous that's grains instead. Spaghetti squash is good with tomato sauce.... long grain rice... if you're going to eat pasta - eat the whole wheat pasta.

2) Check out some of the low-fat low-carb cook books - there are some that are good at provided tasty alternatives to what the nutritionalist gives you.

I don't know if these help, but maybe they'll give you some compromising ideas. I've been through both types of diets that they use now.

[identity profile] harlequinaide.livejournal.com 2002-11-18 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, it sounds like she's reading from a List. Which means that she follows a Plan. There are nutritionists, well paid and credentialed, that still believe that their Plan will work for everyone, regardless of lifestyle and need. They are wrong. It sounds like she is one of these, and, to be honest, the diet that she has proscribed will hurt you in the long run.

I have a couple of friends who do this professionally, and after talking to them I don't trust her to create a diet tailored to you, but rather to try to tailor you to a diet she has been trained for.

[identity profile] the-doughboy.livejournal.com 2002-11-19 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
Poor Curgoth, I feel your pain man, especially when I'm eating a big bowl of ravioli.

But serious dude that bites, maybe check the net for similar diets, or potato substitutes.

Can you do Pizza? Can you do Rol San?

[identity profile] mspiggyoncrack.livejournal.com 2002-11-19 09:30 am (UTC)(link)
Your nutritionist's an idiot. This bears repeating.

Like tylorael and tafkar have said, take her suggestions with a grain of salt and look at healthy alternatives to carbs but don't cut them out entirely. It just may mean that you might have to eat the yummiest organic whole wheat and pesto pasta on a regular basis. What a shame that would be!

Diets suck ass and make you hate eating more than anything else, and then make you snack on the most decadent foods in between your regulated meal intervals because you're dying from hunger and blandness. I personally feel that you gain more weight when you feel guilty about what you're eating, rather than just relaxing and taking things in moderation.

I still think that you should beat her about the head with a large smoked salmon so that you can knock some sense into her, and maybe knock her off her "pasta is morally evil" pedestal.

And if you cook one of those horrendous meals she suggested, for a dinner party, I'm going to refuse to come over and take you out for a sushi boat instead.

Moron. *smack*

[identity profile] mspiggyoncrack.livejournal.com 2002-11-19 09:34 am (UTC)(link)
I'm gonna go eat some fuckin' chocolate, and make some cocoa. Yer nutritionist makes me want to go spread lard on my toast.

hahaha...

[identity profile] shivasinai.livejournal.com 2002-11-24 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
no one gets the basic ideas of "dieting."

first off, it's not dieting, it's a permanent change in lifestyle.

second, it's just about this simple: eat less, use your body more. hi-carb foods won't make your diet unhealthy so long as a) you don't do it every day, b) you don't eat too much in a sitting [in general, eating enough that you feel a little hungry afterwards is better for you than eating enough that you feel a little too full], c) you do something with your body more intense than dragging your fat ass from one chair to another and d) you make sure you get other necessary nutrients while following the first three rules. doing c) will get rid of that tired, negative feeling anyway.

i hope you succeed. but in fairness to your sense of rebellion i hope you stuff yourself silly with cake if you can't grasp the concept of proper nutrition without paying an "expert" to use the same plan s/he gives everyone else [which is probably designed to work temporarily, but apparently seems so unpleasant to you right now that you won't be able to sustain it once you reach a healthy bmi].

adamn