draining all pleasure from food

[curgoth]

So, I made it to the nutritionist today. I'm feeling... unconvinced.

I was kind of hoping for some general guidelines to work with; something like, more protein here, less carbs here, these foods are good, these you ought to avoid. Instead, I got basically a menu to live off of. The menu is pretty limited, and doesn't really allow for flexibility or creativity, and assume that one has time to pre-cook stuff.

I was provided with a pile of recipes, almost all of which look bland and uninteresting; it's basically the same kind of bland, uninteresting stuff my parents keep working at. I'm going to try to stick to it for a while anyway, but I suspect that I'll just cough up the cash (this ain't covered by OHIP) and take what I can live with and see how I do.

On the fun side, it took just over two hours to get to the place from work, plus 30 minutes to stop and eat some lunch. It'll be a bit quicker once the Sheppard subway line opens next week, but it's still a trek, and it'll still end up with me basically losing half a day of work...

I spent a good deal of my life feeling guilty about everything I ate, and hating most of the food I was eating. I don't especially want to go back to that, and I know Liz won't put up with this limited menu.
If this is what I have to do to live longer, maybe a shorter life is the better deal?

Blah. I am tired and feeling negative. I want to eat birthday cake to rebel.

Comments

[tylorael.livejournal.com]

1) when they say "no pasta ever" it's from this thought: "Does it grow? no? then don't eat it." This does mean that you can have complex carbohydrates - like the cous cous that's grains instead. Spaghetti squash is good with tomato sauce.... long grain rice... if you're going to eat pasta - eat the whole wheat pasta.

2) Check out some of the low-fat low-carb cook books - there are some that are good at provided tasty alternatives to what the nutritionalist gives you.

I don't know if these help, but maybe they'll give you some compromising ideas. I've been through both types of diets that they use now.

[neeuqdrazil.livejournal.com]

See, if that's what she had said, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But it wasn't. She just said "No pasta. Pasta bad. No rice. Rice bad. (Even long-grain or brown or wild rice, apparently.) Only good carbs - potatoes, yams, corn." And whole wheat pasta is still bad.

And if she had given general guidelines (i.e., reduce carbs, less of this type of fat) then I would have such a problem with it. But a) the recipes she gave him, and b) the recommendations she gave him, are both boring and very limiting.

And I'm not willing to live the rest of my life like this. (This isn't a time-limited diet for a specific result, this is a lifestyle change.) It just seemed that she wasn't willing to work with him at all to find workable alternatives that would actually work with our life.

[neeuqdrazil.livejournal.com]

er, wouldn't have such a problem. Damn typing thing.

[tylorael.livejournal.com]

My suggestion? Take what she said and go on the internet - find a forum, get a second opinion type.

[curgoth]

Though, to be fair, she was running 20 minutes late, and it was only supposed to be a 40 minute initial consult. But on the other hand, she was kind of just popping things off of a standard list. The next meeting is supposed to be more me talking, according to her.

[curgoth]

1) No, the explanation given was that a samll handful of pasta is the equivalent of four slices of bread, and will leave one hungry. And grains were not encouraged either.

2) The thing is... low-fat, low-carb, and with certain limits on how much protein I can have, basically that leaves water and fibre, with vitamins and minerals dissolved in them. Having eaten such foods, I find them to be rather unsatisfying.

I've been through dozens of diets of similar stripe in my lifetime, and I've hated them all... Which is why I suspect that I'll just take what I want and leave once my appointments are through.

[themusesbitch.livejournal.com]

This is way off topic, but my head just about exploded today when some coworkers (dumb ones, I might add) were looking at some kind of diet wheel, and exclaimed with surprise and delight "hey, there's no fat in beer!"

Yes, there are still people THAT ignorant in the world.

As for low-fat protein, what about chicken, fish, shellfish, tofu, turkey, and even eggs? Our nutritionist told us that the cholestoral in our blood doesn't come from cholestoral in food, it comes from saturated fats, which we convert to cholestoral...

The problem I guess, is that there's just no concensus on these things...

[curgoth]

Heh. There's also no fat in gummi bears or coke, but as I discovered after first year, living on those two will make you fat.

Eggs are still on enough "bad" lists that I'll stick to the restriction my family doc gave me (three egg yolks a week, as many egg whites as I want). I do not do shellfish or tofu. Regardless, there's still jsut a limit on how full I can get from 6 oz of any low fat protein. That's one small chicken breast.

The one time in my life that I lost a significant amount of weight in a short period of time (OAC at high school, lost something like 15 lbs in 6 weeks) it was ebcause I was so disgusted by everything I was eating that I just didn't eat very much. And, maybe this diet could do that. I don't think I'd be happy with that though.